The Live Q/A from the Jeffrey Smith webinar November 19, 2019.
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Transcription of Webinar Q/A
Jeffrey Smith: (00:00)
If our exposure to glyphosate is difficult to avoid because it's virtually everywhere, it's in our water, it's in our food. Does this make detox even more important? How does sulforaphane address this issue? So even if I'm doing everything I can to eat clean, don't I still need sulforaphane? This is how does sulforaphane effect the detox? Now this question may have come up before we discuss the detox or it might not have been clear. So let's just review the detox properties of sulforaphane.
John Gildea: (00:33)
That sounds like your store with it. Then I'll go clinically. So the detox pathways that are induced by sulforaphane, um, are normally pathways that are turned on by toxins themselves. But in the case of so forfeit, you're turning on, your natural detox, um, in the absence of the damage. And so it ramps up the ability to get rid of any toxins that happen to be around. And it doesn't in a safe way because it's turning on the many steps all at once. And some people probably have experienced trying to, to do a detox and you can feel worse when you start a detox as you. I won't use my analogy that I often use. Please don't, I've gotten in trouble. But you can make the toxins more toxic if you, if you just do one part of the detox pathway, like you have to, conjugate it to glutathione, then you have to transfer it out of the cell. You have to carry it through the bloodstream and then transfer it back into the feces and the urine. If you stimulate all of those at the same time, then you don't have as many side effects. So, and, and the, the other part of the question is: Can you actually avoid all toxins and all that? Martin answer that one.
Dr. Martin Katz: (01:55)
Yeah. Again, uh, you know, a couple of things about detoxes. It's, as John was saying, it's not one step to detox. You have to go through three steps. And as John was saying, if you turn on detox one or the first phase of detox without phase two, that's where you can again, clinically feel more poorly. And so, you know, we are exposed to toxins all day, every day. It seems like this day and age, from our, where we sit with flame retardants to carpets, if you're exposed to carpets, all these flame retardants to soaps. Thalates parabins I mean the current, number, I think we mentioned 80,000 molecules introduced since world war II and about, you know, a significant number of those are continuing to be used to then. So we're continuously exposed to these toxins in our food and the air we breathe on, the things we put on our bodies.
Dr. Martin Katz: (02:52)
And so it is very difficult to eliminate all toxins. And so, you know, when people say, do I really need to be taking, sulforaphane, I eat healthy, exercise, I sleep well. You know, I meditate, I do yoga, I do all the things that I'm supposed to do. I don't, I don't know the answer, that question except for the fact that I know that we are exposed to a lot of toxins even if we walk outside and, and breathe the air. So, you know, I want to keep my family in my, uh, certainly my wife and family safe and the people I love. And so, you know, certainly encourage them to take sulforaphane quite regularly, if not daily, uh, regularly. Uh, again, as John has mentioned, I think we've mentioned previously, once you turn on NRF-2, it does stay on. So if you, I want to take one a day rather than the two a day. If you're doing really well with regard to lifestyle, you'll, you'll probably be fine. Um, so I'm, I'm good with that.
Jeffrey Smith: (03:46)
All right, so I'm going to ask some practical questions here. Um, I'm really concerned about glyphosate for me and my entire family. Can I get broccoli to my kids? Three uh, three kids ages four, seven and 12.
Dr. Martin Katz: (03:58)
Yeah. So, uh, fortunately more recently we came up with a kid's dosing. It's a smaller capsule, so it's, um, um, younger kids can swallow the capsule. Obviously kids under a certain age are gonna struggle with that likely under two or three, depending on the, how coordinate your kid swallow is. But, um, again, we do have a smaller capsule size now to milligrams, um, kids older than 12 certainly can do the adult size. Um, but again, I'll discuss this with your physician, make sure there's no other contraindications. But the literature would suggest, uh, that that would be, um, a safe and a good thing to do for, for kids, especially again in this toxic world that we're living in.
Jeffrey Smith: (04:42)
So here's a question. If, so, if sulforaphane is so positively affecting gap junctions, what's the effect on tight junctions and general gut health and leaky gut?
Dr. Martin Katz: (04:51)
So we may be able to bring up a slide for that. We've actually introduced and talked about this previously, but, um, uh, well there it is. Sulforaphane does have a positive effect on, on the gut, on, on the tight junctions, um, through NRF too. Um, but also through decreasing inflammation. Through Nf-kB and IL-6 and through increasing GLP-2. We all know about the small chain fatty acids such as butyric acid and the positive effect they have on the microbiome and what a positive effect the microbiome has on the tight junctions. So, sulforaphane's working in more than one way to tighten those tight junctions and it does a very good job, with that.
Jeffrey Smith: (05:37)
All right. If, if glyphosate's causing cancer through this mechanism of blocking cellular communication, what does this imply regarding general cellular health and aging? How does sulforaphane address general cellular health and aging? You may have just described some of that already.
John Gildea: (05:58)
Yeah. A topic of mine for my PhD was, um, I studied fruit flies, but strangely enough that's applicable to aging is, um, I studied something called, um, chromatin regulation or, uh, transcriptional memory. So when you, during development you, I have one cell type that is induced to, um, become, say a shoulder blade. Um, during development you have to remember that for the whole rest of your life. "I'm a shoulder blade." And it's done by chromatin marks, these marks in your genes that tell the that cell to, to keep this battery of genes on and these battery of genes off. And so, um, those are the yin and yang of whether genes are on or off and, uh, cellular identity. Interestingly, as you age, your cells forget who they are and, if you'd forget far enough, you either become cancer, you know, and one way of saying: "I forget who I am," another one is you become senescent. And so very interesting. The, sulforaphane is known to combat both of those things. The forgetting who you are when you become cancer kills that cell. If you forget who you are and become senescent senescence associated secretory phenotype. Um, it also kills that cell. So it does affect histone deacetylases. It's a histone deacetylase inhibitor and so it is pushing in the right direction for transcriptional memory and youth directed movement of aging.
Jeffrey Smith: (07:43)
Interesting. Um, John asks a very practical question. He's in Canada. What are the Ontario can, can broccoli be sent away, sent to Canada? Well, let the off, uh, off radio voice. This embodied voice of David Roberts. We will speak regularly to Canada and we're assigned Canada. While we're talking about shipping, why don't you give away another bottle, right? We're going to give her a bottle of late to Gloria rammer. Gloria, please email firstname.lastname@example.org with your information. Wow. Brock InfoEd, broccoli. So Broc then the less than the word elite. It's all together. Broccoli, Info@broccoli.com.
David Roberts: (08:28)
Now here's a question about expense. You know, not everyone can afford to take supplements. Um, some people are on a fixed income and I've already maxed out just, um, paying rent and staying alive. Um, what are the options for them growing broccoli sprouts, for example, so that they use some of their food budget to co to get the sulforaphane. And if that's the case, what's the best way to do that or is that going to be helpful? Maybe. David, do you want to talk about the expense piece?
Dr. Martin Katz: (09:00)
Well, I actually answered this question all the time cause I, I still work in a insurance-based clinic and part of our mission in the clinic is just to, um, give a lot of care to the underserved. Um, and so we have a fair amount of people who don't have insurance or um, just don't have a lot of monitoring means. I, I'd love to speak to this. Um, and what I would say is, I strongly, strongly encouraged people to use the seed to grow the sprouts. The good news about that you only need about one to two ounces of sprouts a day, which is not very much, not very hard to create. And uh, the one caveat to that is you got to remember, I think we addressed it in the slides that again, there's a precursor molecule called glucoraphanin. And then in the marketing smart marketing, they call it sulforaphane glycocsinolate.
Dr. Martin Katz: (09:53)
That is glucoraphanin. That's the precursor. You mix the precursor with my roast and ice. And the reason I bring that up is because seeds have different amount of precursor molecule. And so you've got to be making sure that you're getting a seed that has a high amount of glucoraphanin so you can actually make the sulforaphane that we've been able to stabilize in the, in the capsule. So you're more than welcome to get in touch with us. We'll send you a good amount of seed out for I think $12, if I'm not mistaken. We also send out the top of the Mason jar where you can drain off the water, takes about four days to make, um, sprouts from seed. Um, you can do it in your kitchen, doesn't even require much in the way of sunlight. You actually want to do it a little darkened. Um, if it doesn't come out of green, then you put it in the sun for maybe a day and you have beautiful sprouts that you can enjoy it. You may lose a batch or two here or there, but if you have bottles growing, um, all the time and you can feed yourself and your family and do it on a, uh, on a budget. So it's a great way to do it.
Jeffrey Smith: (10:53)
No, I can people just go out and buy organic broccoli seeds and do their own sprouts.
Dr. Martin Katz: (11:01)
So again, when we were looking, when we were looking at a broccoli and organic broccoli seed, we went out and board organic broccoli and we made our sulforaphane. We thought until we looked at it under HPLC and realized that there was almost no sulforaphane in it. So again, it's all dependent on that a precursor molecule. And so not all organic seed has much in the way of precursor molecule.
Jeffrey Smith: (11:27)
All right? So this is important. I mean really important. If you want to grow your own, then don't just pick up and spent all that time and effort to create sprouts and eat the sprouts because it may be empty of sulforaphane and you guys have actually identified, um, seeds that are high in the precursor that can create the sulforaphane for people. So, um, if you're going to sprout method, then go to the website and get the sprouts from these guys. Otherwise you could be wasting a lot of time and not getting the benefits champion.
David Roberts: (12:05)
Real quick. This David, we tested five different organic seeds from Amazon and none of them had were able to make sulforaphane Wow. So five seeds out of Amazon organic broccoli seeds were next time we measure if anyone, any listeners want to send us seeds, we'll be happy to, to, to test it out for you.
Jeffrey Smith: (12:32)
Now do you, how many, how much broccoli sprouts would you have to consume in order to have an equivalent amount or appropriate daily dose? Have you figured that out?
David Roberts: (12:42)
Yeah. Two ounces. So, um, yeah, two ounces of, fresh broccoli sprouts. We also sell the radish seeds, to spread along with the broccoli because radish is, has the myrosinase enzyme in it and it just allows the conversion to be more thorough.
Jeffrey Smith: (13:01)
Well thought. Okay. And can kids take the capsules and open it up and put it on food so that they don't have to swallow it? Like, especially younger kids? Yes.
Dr. Martin Katz: (13:11)
Yeah, man, it's got a certain taste to it. So, you know, if I would, I would, uh, be careful. I'd have the mother or father taste that before they do it to make sure it's not, uh, the, you know, the kid's not going to turn their nose up to it and then they'll never be able to do it again. So sort of mix it in a smoothie or in other ways to make it more palatable.
David Roberts: (13:31)
We do recommend to two seats a day or two capsules a day. So that's $70 a bottle. We have had more and more people just taking the one capsule and uh, receiving benefits. Um, and you are very grateful for taking the one capsule. So that's a few of the 30 capsule bottle is $39.95 And which is sale for, uh, just under $32. We have a children's bottle that's a re $29.95 that, uh, is on sale with this special through IRT for $23. So all of those have specific doses. If you don't want to grow your broccoli sprouts, there are a lot of people would want to grow. There are a lot of people don't.
Jeffrey Smith: (14:15)
Um, so there was a question, is sulforaphane, Oh, is glyphosate related to increasing inflammation and does Sophia fame address inflammation directly? When you open the slide just now, you did talk about the reduction in inflammation. Anything, yes, glyphosate is related to inflammation. Um, in the healing from GMOs and Roundup summit online conference that we, um, offer aft healingfromgmos.com we go into some of the reasons why and how it can create inflammation. Uh, the leaky gut is one way, the damage, the other damage it kept, occurs the gut, many, many areas. So, um, is there any other aspects you want to share about how sulforaphane may deal with inflammation directly?
Dr. Martin Katz: (15:00)
Well, just to that point, Jeffrey, I think in the last podcast we certainly brought up toxins again in glyphosate downregulates NRF-2 and this NRF-2 is incredibly important in an oxidative stress and make sure you understand that oxidative stress, if it's out of control, leads to inflammation, you can certainly get inflammation other ways, uh, through interleukins and immune system, etc, etc. If you have increasing oxidative stress, you're ultimately going to have inflammation. And again, glyphosate downregulates at NRF-2 again sulforaphane blocks that. Um, so absolutely that's a, that's another mechanism. Um, and obviously glyphosate, we are talking about living into toxic world. If glyphosate is down-regulating NRF-2 and now you're introducing more and more toxins and NRF -2 is downregulated, you're not going to be getting rid of those toxins. You're going to be feeling, the effects of those toxins more and more. And so, again, it's just the sort of, you know, increasing burden if you will, that that we don't, we don't want to see in our loved ones. And we certainly, I don't want to see my patients or my loved ones. So that's certainly not the mechanism.
Jeffrey Smith: (16:13)
No. Because you've had experience with clinical, application of this. I'm going to ask you these questions for people who may be more sensitive, one, are there contra-indications to taking it to what if you have food sensitivity to broccoli specifically? Three, what if you're detoxing too fast and what would be, what would you do and, and, and any, any, um, side effects so that you would indicate that you'd want to change your dosage.
Dr. Martin Katz: (16:38)
So I'd say side effects, uh, from, um, sulforaphane in the, in the literature there is some concern about taking too much. Sulforaphane and the thyroid, uh, there's a couple things about that is obviously that was extraordinarily high doses of, uh, broccoli and broccoli sprout. Um, and sulforaphane and likely also a iodine deficiency. And so if you'd start slowly increased slowly and make sure you're, uh, taking in some iodine that should not be a problem. Um, if you have a specific reaction to self, if you're slow self a processor or if you've had a problem with broccoli in the past, we asked that you certainly talk to your physician, uh, before starting. And certainly if you're going to try, start slowly, uh, if you've had an NFL lactic reaction to self, obviously, please, um, uh, be very, you know, be cognizant of that and not be, I would not be taking it. Um, so, and there was another question you asked. I'm sorry, I forgot the third.
Jeffrey Smith: (17:40)
No side effects, uh, sensitivity, uh, diet detoxing too fast.
Dr. Martin Katz: (17:46)
Oh, right. Yeah. Um, yeah. Certainly detoxing too, too fast. You see these Herxheimer reactions. You see these reactions, you see, uh, possible rashes. Um, I personally have not seen that so far in my clinic asking people to use the many approaches we use to detox naturally. I'm using broken wall chlorella, uh, using cilantro, using uh, natural foods, garlic, onions, um, and glutathione and using sulforaphane. I've not seen that at this point where people are detoxing too quickly. Um, the interesting thing about sulforaphane is it seems to, um, um, inhibitor degree, phase one detox, so you're not having this massive effect of toxins, uh, coming out. Um, which is actually quite important. You, you definitely want your Phase 2 upregulated and uh, Phase 1 you want to keep in check, um, to get rid of all these toxins. And so it seems like that is an added benefit. Uh, certainly if we were doing EDTA in my clinic or some other form of detox, that might be a bigger problem, but, but doing it naturally, like we do it so far using saunas of course as well. Um, I have not seen that as being a tremendous problem.
Jeffrey Smith: (19:03)
Any, any children that are too young for it?
Dr. Martin Katz: (19:07)
I mean, it's, you know, from broccoli sprouts. I mean, you know, we don't, we generally don't ask a parents to feed kids too much in the way of food before four months of age or six months of age. So certainly wouldn't be doing it before four, or six months of age. But, you know, again, it's just a food. So, you know, added slowly and gradually and, uh, I certainly think would be a, an important part of any kid's adoption of a healthy diet.
John Gildea: (19:32)
That thyroid, um, discussion Martin was talking about, um, uh, DIM, (diindolylmethane) I forget the rest of it, or I3-C the two compounds that are connected, um, with goitergenic activity, um, is actually in much higher than the adult broccoli and there's almost none in the seeds, so it was very little in BrocElite (which is derived from broccoli seeds).
Jeffrey Smith: (20:00)
Great. Um, so question about radish sprouts. When you do use, did you sell the, the radish and the broccoli sprout the seeds together or separate? And if they're separate, how much do you take a of each so that you have that, complimentary, compound to help with the sulforaphane?
Dr. Martin Katz: (20:23)
Jeffrey Smith: (20:25)
Yeah, they're a little louder. David's hard to hear.
Dr. Martin Katz: (20:29)
Yes. A fourth radish seeds to three-fourths broccoli seeds.
Jeffrey Smith: (20:35)
All right, so two ounces of broccoli seeds, and then 25%, uh, one third of that in radish seeds
Dr. Martin Katz: (20:46)
or quarter? Yeah. Well, if it's
Jeffrey Smith: (20:48)
There are three types of people. Those that know math and those that don't.
Jeffrey Smith: (21:00)
All right, so Eileen asked the question, where do you get your seeds? Why are seeds so different? I can answer that. You know, the pen like organic does not necessarily organic is based on what you avoid and it's not based in what you do and that you can be getting seeds from different lines and certain heirlooms and certain other ones. It, there's a huge variety in foods. And so, um, we don't want to condemn organic because the ones that you tested from Amazon happened to have no self urethane and it doesn't mean a conventional is better than organic. What it means is that there's a variety of the, of the types of seeds and it's important to check. So these guys have done their homework and found seeds. Um, so Jaclyn asks, does it help detox heavy metals? Good question. And while I met it, I'll throw some, another question in that. It's pretty bizarre that that hardly anyone will understand. Does it affect long terminal repeats? So, uh, heavy metals and long terminal repeats. That's go for the geek answers. I'm good to go. Cause the log terminal. Repeat cause I like when you're, when you're taking a train. Nevermind. [inaudible]
Jeffrey Smith: (22:12)
I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm giving that to you John. Sorry. LTRs are,
John Gildea: (22:18)
they're part of that. Uh, what used to be called junk DNA. [inaudible] they're, they're repetitive DNA elements that take part in recombination. Um, during, uh, uh, cancer progression. You can get, uh, LTRs, uh, forming homologous pairs between chromosomes. Then you can get translocations.
Jeffrey Smith: (22:39)
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. Um, can someone translate please? Anyone speak, John?
John Gildea: (22:49)
Yeah. So, so, um, it's one of the ways that you can test for were called "off target effects" of uh, um, histone deacetylases is these, these, um, regions, just like a normal gene can be turned into messenger RNA. It's not making a protein or anything, but it's, it's transcribed just like a gene is. And, so "off target effects" for histone deacetylase inhibitors. Um, that's one way that you can check that. And, um, I at least know of one paper where they said the transcription of LTR these long terminal repeats is upregulated. Um, but I think as a fibroblast and the this sort of clinical background for that is that fibroblasts cancers are pretty rare. And, um, I'm pretty sure that in the case of, sulforaphane it actually
Jeffrey Smith: (23:46)
prevents the sarcomas, uh, the, uh, the connective tissue cancers. So clinically, even if it has, that activity was basically in a paper and, and I don't think was associated with ill effect. It was just a lack of phenomenology. All right. So, um, heavy metals
Dr. Martin Katz: (24:10)
Again, so, so when you're in the cell, when you have something that is far and you have to take it and you have to do something with it in phase one, um, and so you take this molecule that that is a phase one, a reaction where you're taking something that's unfriendly in the cell, converting into something that can be excreted out of the cell. Um, sulforaphane is then taking that molecule, putting a glutathione or an methylation or an or acetyl group or a sulfur group on it to help it help get rid of it and, uh, from the cell. So it's going to help with heavy metals, with toxins. And again, things that you do not belong in the cell through that Phases 1, 2 and 3.
Jeffrey Smith: (24:57)
Dr. Martin Katz: (24:57)
Are there things that work better than self, your Fein for heavy metals, I would say, you know, yes. EDTA and, uh, some of the ROL um, key laters but you know, as far as a natural substance, there's, you're, you're doing well with, uh, turning on NRF-2. And sulforaphane.
Jeffrey Smith: (25:17)
All right, I'm going to answer some and then you cut in and overrule me if I get it wrong. All right. Uh, someone asked, what's the best way to grow broccoli sprouts and the grass jar pasture, plastic tray sprouting tray. So in healing from GMOs and Roundup, we have someone from Crout Source that has developed as beautiful top on Mason jars that are really easy to to use. Um, I'm assuming you guys don't need it in a tray, like, like wheat grass. You can just do it in a jar. Uh, those are generally easier. Um, then, uh, Sharina mentions that genotoxic effects were observed and unpublished studies with pigs fed raw broccoli for 12 days and another one with feeding raw steamed broccoli. I want to answer that and say this is does not have the same properties as raw broccoli. There's different compounds, and correct me if I'm wrong, just wanting to get through the questions and if there's anything you want to add, please, please mention. Someone asked, are there ways to get glyphosate all or other ways to get glyphosate out of one's body?
Jeffrey Smith: (26:18)
And another question, can you detox a hundred percent of glyphosate? In healing from GMOs and Roundup, we talk about different ways to detox different products. No one has claimed to get 100% out of the body. It is water soluble. Most of it leaves through the urine. Uh, and it's, it's also out, deficate it out. And, but some of it gets into, a lot of it stays in for about week and some stays in for longer and get down to the bones and tissues. So there's a lot of different ways that the body can detox. These are obviously to the, um, that we've talked about. The P450 cytochrome pathway in the, in the liver is one and glyphosate hurts that and also the NRF-2. Um, and then we've talked about we, we have a, a sauna, a webinar coming up cause two of our men, two of the people that we interviewed deep, Dietrich Klinghardt and Lee Cowden talked about the use of a whole full spectrum infrared sauna as an additional detox mechanism. So if you're signed up for, um, for this webinar, you're on our normal mailing list, you'll get the information for the, um, the sauna. I just recorded that yesterday. Um, and we've arranged for a pretty, pretty big discount for everyone. Um, let's see. Uh, here's an interesting one. Please give your thoughts regarding the use of AA Glycine I've had is a loading dose followed by a maintenance dose in detoxing water-soluble glyphosate. I'm not sure that relates to this, this webinar. So I'm going to pass that on that one because it's,
John Gildea: (27:53)
you know, you're a little bit about, I know a little bit about that one.
Jeffrey Smith: (27:56)
If it's a little off topic because we're running out of time. I want to, yeah, I want to keep it onto this topic. Um, are there any natural organic sources of sulforaphane? We've talked about that in terms of the, the specific seeds, um, you, I think I heard John mentioned dim. Can he say more about that? Um, you started, I think, did you, did you explain it all or do you want to add something about DIM.
John Gildea: (28:20)
DIM dindole methane is a compound that has, um, some estrogenic like effects. So it's, um, in, in, uh, females that are going through menopause, you can decrease some of the side effects. So our product was sometimes put on shelves in the wrong shelf because of the association with DIM and, and menopause. But, uh, again, our product doesn't have very much of that in it because it comes from seed. But the adult broccoli itself has, um, a lot of DIM, so good for that. And uh, also there are supplements just with DIM in it. That's good for that particular, um, problem. I3C is another compound.
Jeffrey Smith: (29:06)
We're almost done. And we're going to announce the winner of that last, that last bottle, which is they're limited to those of asked questions. Um, Kathy said, you mentioned reaction to sulfa. Is this the drug and does sulforaphane cause the same type of reaction?
Dr. Martin Katz: (29:21)
It is not the sulfa drug. No, it is a sulfur molecule. Um, different obviously if you've had a significant reaction to the drug, I'd be careful. It does have a sulfur group on it, but you know, there's so many of you be needing cruciferous vegetables, they have tons of sulfur in them. So obviously if you've been to tolerate cruciferous vegetables and haven't had an interaction like you have to something like Bactrim or the sulfa medications as a completely different mechanism. Um, so this is just concentrating what is in those cruciferous vegetables, specifically broccoli sprouts or broccoli. Um, and so this is more, um, if you have an intolerance to that type of food or taking in broccoli.
Jeffrey Smith: (30:03)
All right. And I'm going to apologize and we're not going to get to everyone. There's just a few left, but it is, it is getting late and it's time for some people to put the kids away. Um, so David, can you mention the winner of the final bottle of, of, so a BrocElite and then we will, we'll me give some closing points. Sheereen Chandanny. Ah, I think I read Sheereen's questions. So Sheereen, congratulations. You're the winner. So I want to remind you that there's a 20% off window between now and Monday night. Um, and then on top of that, uh, the BrocElite folks at generously, uh, for every purchase that you make, they're going to support our work getting the information out on GMOs and Roundup and how to heal from that. Um, I think that, uh, we would like to hear from you about what your reactions are, how you've noticed changes.
Jeffrey Smith: (30:57)
So you obviously gonna share that with, with the folks at broccoli, but we want to hear about it as well, so you can let us know, um, through our various channels. I think you can reach us through our emails. Um, and I also wanna say "Thank You" to both of you, John and Martin because you know, um, so many scientists and so many doctors are involved in protocols that have been established by others, typically pharmaceutical companies. And not only are you looking for new protocols, but you're creating new products and doing the tests. You know, there's so many, even people that create new products, sometimes they don't bother testing to verify. And more than that, you're, you're, you're entering my world by not just testing the benefits of sulforaphane, uh, generally, but also on your testing glyphosate. So you're advancing the field of what we know about glyphosate.
Jeffrey Smith: (31:54)
So even if sulforaphane were not protected, which would be very upsetting to have to just talk about all these new damning aspects of glyphosate without any benefit. It still helps us understand the mechanisms, which gives us more impetus to eat organic. I want to recommend that people don't think that they can just eat whatever they want and then use sulforaphane uh, in order to detox. Um, I have talked to so many practitioners whose, who have said this: that if you, um, eat well, you may not need certain, uh, supplements and drugs. But if you eat poorly, the medicine's not going to work. So, because glyphosate is, as I as we've talked about in so many aspects of our lives, it's good to have something to detox it because of the inadvertent exposure. It was found in 60 to 100 percent of the rain and air samples in the Midwest. It is in some water supplies. Um, it's even an organic food because sometimes that rain will rain on the organic crops and then it ends up in there in small amounts and small amounts can also have damaging effects. So unfortunately, um, doing nothing is not necessarily the best choice, but certainly avoiding it as much as possible by eating organic is the number one. Do you guys want to add anything before we finish?
Dr. Martin Katz: (33:21)
Yeah, I think again, I think what's important for people to understand is that we can't wait on our government to make these changes. We can't wait on, uh, states and etc to make the changes. We have got to make the changes. We have got to spread the news about how, uh, you know, pervasive toxins are and the effect that they have on the human body. Um, and we can make those statements, we can make those choices with our wallets. Um, and certainly spreading the good news that there is something that we can do about it is I think is incredibly important. Um, you know, sometimes when you go to these talks and uh, conferences, you're sort of holding your head down and cause there's just so much out there. But understanding that there's, um, some, some things that we can actively do to make an effect on ourselves, on our, again, on our loved ones, on our communities. I think that is really important and that has to come from us, um, as individuals and um, as people who, uh, buy, as consumers. So please make a difference and tell people about it, spread the word. Um, and let's go from there.
Jeffrey Smith: (34:28)
I also let everyone know that we're sending the transcript out. David, if you can add the slides in, that would be helpful for some people. Um, especially the visual learners. Um, John, do you have anything to add before I share some of the final comments that people are making? They're really beautiful.
John Gildea: (34:43)
Yeah, sure. The um, one thing that I often talk about with supplements in, in my particular case, since I wanted to help the person that was standing right in front of me, I'm all about bioavailability and all about therapeutic dose. So when the person is standing in front of you and you desperately want to help that person and you know the amount that needs to get to the cell, it's super important. So there's a connection to the literature, but many times that's a cell culture model. You have to know what you take in your mouth is going to get the amount at the site that you're trying to affect. And that's a big part of our, our company is developing products that do that. And uh, I'm committed to continuing to do that.
Jeffrey Smith: (35:33)
So there's really great, thank you John. Thank you John so much. And, and I did mention developing this for, uh, someone that you care for was a beautiful, a beautiful way to give birth to this. Um, and I want to mention, I'm reading some of the chat points. There's so many people expressing appreciation, thanking us for our hard work and research thanking you for your research. Um, so as someone's asking what the site URL is again, so if you go, what's going to happen is if you go to the reminder that was sent out 30 minutes before this, you'll have a landing page and a code for the discount in addition. Tomorrow I believe it'll be tomorrow, you'll also receive, um, a link will have the complete transcript and the replay, uh, in better quality sound of that prerecorded as well as the Q and a.
Jeffrey Smith: (36:28)
um, so you can catch the things that you missed it. Again, it'll have the link to the landing page, it'll have the code. So w we'll take care of you if you run into any questions. Email info at brocelite dot com and I, I really, I want you to know that I, this is exactly exactly why we started the healing from GMOs and Roundup side of our, of our outreach because we get more information about the dangers. And at the same time, we, if we discover ways that we can protect ourselves and reverse the damage for ourselves and loved ones. Thank you again for your amazing knowledge and amazing, uh, yeah, mastery of science to not only talk about it, but actually to have created it in the first place.
Dr. Martin Katz: (37:20)
Oh, thank you. Yeah. And please look out for, uh, other, um, products that will be coming out with that, um, improved by availability. So certainly, so,
Jeffrey Smith: (37:30)
yeah, I've heard about those. What we'll talk about, if it's anything related to GMOs around them, we'll let you know. Right. David's going to David's. I'm just going to wave until he does. Bye. Bye everyone.